Wednesday, January 20, 2010


This morning, my co-worker Jason Swartz had the great idea of a conference focussing on JVM languages. This seemed like a particularly good idea, given the uncertainty surrounding JavaOne. Personally, I think the JavaOne powers-that-be have done a good job showcasing other languages, especially the last two years. Anyways, I joked that we could probably host it at our north campus, since it has proper facilities and regularly hosts medium sized conferences,  and that we just needed the support of folks from the Groovy, JRuby, Scala, and Clojure communities. A lot of folks seemed to like the idea, and had some great feedback/questions. So let me phrase some of these questions in the context of "a JavaOne-ish replacement, focussing on alternative languages on the JVM, but ultimately driven by the community". Ok here are some of the questions.

1.) What about Java?
2.) What about languages other than Groovy, JRuby, Scala, and Clojure?
3.) What about first class technologies with their roots in Java, like Hadoop, Cassandra, etc.?

Certainly I have opinions on some of these, but obviously any kind of effort like this requires huge participation from the developer community. So what do you think? What other questions need to be asked? If there is enough interest, I will definitely try to organize it. So please leave comments below!


Lars said...

Does Sun not have a similar event? I believe it was called the "Java language summit" or something similar.

But sure such a event would be very interesting; if it is in the Bay Area I definitely would try to join.

patbaumgartner said...

@Lars I guess you meant the JVM Language Summit (

Such an event in Europe would be nice ;)

Jason said...

Sun's event is targeted to "language designers, compiler writers, tool builders, runtime engineers, and VM architects". There should be a developer-level conference for users of these languages. I guess the closest thing is the NoFluffJustStuff conference, but they don't have the bay area in their schedule (and cover far more than JVM languages).

liebke said...

I think it's a great idea.

As to the question of including some Java topics in the conference, why not? Java is a JVM language after all :). There's no reason to exclude it, even if the other JVM languages are emphasized/prioritized.