tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5819005.post4087702206924878486..comments2024-03-16T02:17:55.433-07:00Comments on Programming and politics: iWork '08 StupidityAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08698131967747444207noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5819005.post-7331487258292479972007-09-15T03:32:00.000-07:002007-09-15T03:32:00.000-07:00I was also upset when this happened to me in the p...I was also upset when this happened to me in the plane over the atlantic yesterday... even more upset as I have ordered it thru my lab and will get the registered key when I return from my trip.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, changing back to the original timezone did not work (for me)... I had to use the hack mentioned above for now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5819005.post-13153493896654327032007-08-23T19:36:00.000-07:002007-08-23T19:36:00.000-07:00I don't really see what the problem is. Just chan...I don't really see what the problem is. Just change your time zone back. It's not so hard to understand why that happened. It's just a DEMO after all, it's not like the full version acts that way.<BR/><BR/>Pages, Keynote, and Numbers are really great. You're missing out over something trivial.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5819005.post-81869134692477308732007-08-21T08:23:00.000-07:002007-08-21T08:23:00.000-07:00Regardless of how people feel about trial software...Regardless of how people feel about trial software expiring, this problem reflects either a bug or a design flaw in the software itself. If I saw that in the trial version, I would be wondering about the quality of the rest of the software.<BR/><BR/>As for everyone saying it's great, well, I've learned to take software reviews with a grain of salt a long time ago. They tend to be worthless because balanced reviews are always drowned out by advocates or detractors. When you're dealing with Apple, the situation is an order of magnitude worse, because Apple can do no wrong in the minds of some people. When that product is competing against a Microsoft product, it is yet another magnitude worse since Microsoft is evil in the minds of many people.<BR/><BR/>So is a working trial version a necessity. Yes. It is necessary for review, and it will end up reflecting quality. Did Apple goof up here? At least for this user, the answer is yes.Byron Winmillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16848917711954892009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5819005.post-72904769079375656242007-08-20T06:50:00.000-07:002007-08-20T06:50:00.000-07:00If it's important, don't use trial software. Test ...If it's important, don't use trial software. Test before using in production.<BR/><BR/>Good luck.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5819005.post-82519387754989427652007-08-20T00:41:00.000-07:002007-08-20T00:41:00.000-07:00How odd that you would have your productivity impe...How odd that you would have your productivity impeded like that by some misguided sense of how things should be. I assume this is what it's like when you have principles, forcing yourself to keep using bug-infested, expensive crap because of some completely insignificant glitch (that you can remedy yourself!) in a far superior program.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5819005.post-16467926440777592542007-08-19T20:14:00.000-07:002007-08-19T20:14:00.000-07:00Oh, and I'm not convinced that iWork is a legit re...Oh, and I'm not convinced that iWork is a legit replacement for Office, at least for me. One of the things I have to deal with is track changes and comments. The stuff I write for IBM doesn't go straight from my MacBook to live on IBM's site. There's an editor in between, and there's a workflow to things like this. It's a workflow that Word enables nicely. And I can't expect my editor to use Pages. So I need to be able to send him a Word doc that he can edit, puts comments, etc. and send back. Maybe Pages '08 can do this. I don't know since I couldn't finish the trial.<BR/><BR/>Oh and I do have iWork '06. Track changes did not work in Pages '06. Also, there was degradation at times when going from Word 2004 -> Pages '06. That's something I wanted to test, and similarly test the same thing between Excel 2004 -> Numbers. Finally, some PowerPoint templates didn't always transfer work with Keynote '06. There's one more thing I can't test because of Apple's stupidity.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08698131967747444207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5819005.post-91222930608290883292007-08-19T19:59:00.000-07:002007-08-19T19:59:00.000-07:00Woo hoo, look at all these comments :-)Yes, Apple ...Woo hoo, look at all these comments :-)<BR/><BR/>Yes, Apple is stupid for having to check my computer's clock as part of their trial valuation. If you wanted to do a check against time, then there's crazy thing out there called the internet. You know, the ol' series o' tubes... For example, check out your Mac's Date & Time System Preference. Notice the Set date & time automatically: time.apple.com. What do you think that site does?<BR/><BR/>And that's not even close to being the most sophisticated way to enforce a time based trial. Go download anything from Adobe, like Photoshop, Acrobat Pro, Flash, etc. Screwing around with your date won't fool it. Same thing with anything from Microsoft. This is not a hard problem that hasn't been solved or something. Lots of people have solved it without using a stupid hack like Apple has.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08698131967747444207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5819005.post-7814465915945815552007-08-19T19:58:00.000-07:002007-08-19T19:58:00.000-07:00I ran into this, too. Mine was on the Friday after...I ran into this, too. Mine was on the Friday after it was announced, the trial was all of 4 days old! <BR/><BR/>And regardless of the mechanism used to determine if the trial has expired, "fiddling with the clock" by changing time zones should NOT be something that breaks this check. I travel almost every week, frequently between time zones. I downloaded the trial in EST, and live in CST. Changing time zones is fairly standard fare!<BR/><BR/>I did opt to buy it, anyway, just because, well, no great reason. But it is bogus to think that a company like Apple can't determine a better way to protect their goods.2centshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10739754737697890984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5819005.post-72398215993512991582007-08-19T19:54:00.000-07:002007-08-19T19:54:00.000-07:00Want some cheese with our whine? So there is a bu...Want some cheese with our whine? So there is a bug in the 30-day trial software... just got buy the software now that you know it works so well.... geezs...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5819005.post-39555592727600289822007-08-19T19:18:00.000-07:002007-08-19T19:18:00.000-07:00Just how is Apple supposed to check whether your 3...Just how is Apple supposed to check whether your 30-day trial has expired without reading the clock? This isn't stupid on Apple's part, its the only option a software engineer has. I switched from using Word myself and at this point I love Pages simplicity, stability, and its new functionality under iWork '08.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05294683690657273538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5819005.post-59288372861895954732007-08-19T17:19:00.000-07:002007-08-19T17:19:00.000-07:00Don't worry. You'll get over it. :) A comparison o...Don't worry. You'll get over it. :) A comparison of Word to Pages is like a week-old smushed banana to a banana split.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5819005.post-85386679893722364752007-08-19T14:45:00.000-07:002007-08-19T14:45:00.000-07:00So Apple is "stupid" for trying to keep you from s...So Apple is "stupid" for trying to keep you from stealing the shareware priced iWork, and you were "bait and switched" because your test drive--which made you decide you liked it enough to buy it--didn't work properly after you fiddled with your clock?<BR/><BR/>FYI, changing the clock on a computer always has consequences, as does pouring a glass of water on it, shaking it violently, or putting it next to a Tesla Coil. Don't blame Apple just because you were able to screw up your system enough to where you lost a doodle you'd started in a test app.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5819005.post-24264796300160918502007-08-19T14:26:00.000-07:002007-08-19T14:26:00.000-07:00Since you are writing an article for IBM you most ...Since you are writing an article for IBM you most probably know that computers are stupid and can not mind-meld with humans at this time. No wonder you got stuck in a time zone switch limbo. However, if you had used the regular iWork instead of the trial version, you would not had the problem.<BR/><BR/>Further, Numbers is a killer application!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5819005.post-60652109358234770892007-08-19T14:02:00.000-07:002007-08-19T14:02:00.000-07:00on who's part :-)on who's part :-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5819005.post-50746507698170916532007-08-19T09:48:00.000-07:002007-08-19T09:48:00.000-07:00Pity you didn't take a screengrab of the error.Pity you didn't take a screengrab of the error.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5819005.post-9758890178728384522007-08-19T09:24:00.000-07:002007-08-19T09:24:00.000-07:00Too bad you got nailed on such a simple change. So...Too bad you got nailed on such a simple change. Sorry you feed bitter but I do understand your reaction. For me personally, I am fed up with all the bugs and glitches that remain in Office 2004. They offend me far more than Apple's wanting to get paid for their effort.<BR/><BR/>I love iWork '08! It easily handles my needs. Numbers kicks Excel in the but for my use. Yesterday I used copy and paste from viewing a spreadsheet in Firefox—I captured data in a format that pasted directly into Numbers! Safari did not work for this task!<BR/><BR/>I used a blank spreadsheets and pasted into the upper left hand cell... then edited to remove unnecessary rows and columns and presto! The charts and graphs that my boss has wanted for three months were done!<BR/><BR/>iWork is definitely worth $79. Buy it and don't look back... YES YOU CAN reduce your reliance on MS Office. I hope not to have to update to MS Office 2008 at $399 per copy on 26 systems.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5819005.post-70781241923681457832007-08-19T00:09:00.000-07:002007-08-19T00:09:00.000-07:00Just reset the trial using the method outlined on ...Just reset the trial using the method outlined on the page below<BR/><BR/>http://www.macopz.com/forum/index.pl/noframes/read/839Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com